Friday, May 28, 2010

wanna see something really scary?



Q: what was (or is) the scariest thing about church?
L.G. To quote DCTalk from the 1990's. "The Number one cause of athiesm in the world today is Christians who profess Jesus with their mouth and go out and deny him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world, simply finds, unbelievable" I think the scariest thing about church as a Christian (Christ-like) is that we think we have to be perfect ...
May 18 at 10:01am ·
L.M. Judgement and when you need a place to let your guard down, need to just be yourself, your unable to in fear that you'll be turned away and alone
May 18 at 10:32am ·
D.S. The first time you enter a new church and you feel like you might not be accepted. The other thing is talking to your friends about yor church exsperience and them not understanding or not wanting to know.
May 18 at 10:59am ·
T.H. I would have to say fear of rejection is one, the other is fear of not being accepted, as weird as this sounds the two can be very different. Many people are at the fringe of church where they show up and a re accepted but still don't feel they can get deeper involved.
May 18 at 12:22pm ·
A.L. was: feeling alone and disconnected in a room full of people
is: seeing the world impact the church, instead of the other way 'round...
May 18 at 12:24pm ·
R.F. Being the only person who doesn't know anyone in a large click. This is made worse by an over friendly welcome crew. I don't imagine it's the same walking in a mega Church
May 18 at 9:29pm ·
JB no, mega churches are probably comprised of many large clicks ;)
May 23 at 6:15am ·
(sadly, i had to remove the names and pictures of our 'panel' because these were all hyperlinks back to their facebook accounts... not really as interesting anymore. sorry, but people's privacy is kinda important, even though Jesus DID say that "there is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known.What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs." Luke 12.2-3)

so i posed this little question on facebook, thinking i would get lots of stories about strange spiritual experiences in churches... chance encounters with the spiritual gifts like tongues, prophecy and healing that left people confused and a little edgy every time they came upon acts 2 in their devotions and whatnot.

my plan was to share a couple of my own experiences: one that weirded me out and one that inspired me to explore my own giftings more deeply. however, i never got there. apparently, the folks responding to the simple prompt went a very different direction with it... and did so together.

the common denominator in this little thread, and two others like it that i began in different places, was the fear of non-acceptance due to lack of grace. this is troubling, considering the majority of the folks responding were regular 'church folks.'

how did the church get this reputation, even among its own people? Jesus certainly didn’t have this in mind when he described the future of his movement in john 14.16-27.

fair enough... but you wanna see something really scary?

the church that emerged from that amazing day when the Holy Spirit touched people in the way that Jesus had promised was hardly a religious institution prompting fear and anxiety among those who came looking for truth and hope. sure, the day of Pentecost was absolute mayhem- but it was God’s mayhem, accomplishing major life-change and freedom for thousands the very first day and birthing the new covenant church in the process, entrusting its leadership to uneducated sellouts for Christ. it was a grassroots movement of regular people just trying to sort it out as they went along, but doing so within the safety of intentional faith and fellowship communities that were as committed to the meeting of others' needs as to the progress of their own personal spiritual pilgrimages.

the really scary thing is that somehow this beautiful movement eventually turned into a religion. the encouraging thing is that it's not too late to change it back.

3 comments:

BL4CHRIST said...

What's interesting hear is that most people are afraid of being alienated or not fitting in.

I am curious as to the experiences you were going to share. I think that alot of what was mentioned in ACTS 2, isn't seen these days as openly just for the very above reasons above, for fear of not fitting in...but my friend that is the point we don't fit in and have to accept that loveling and without fear...we are all exactly what God made us to be and we should embrace it openly without fear of persecution...because in the end it's not about us...and yet it is.

Anonymous said...

I am not sure we can change it back...the institution is now what matters and not the people. Everything revolves around a building (church) and ceremony for that building (service). Sure there is an invitation to God to come there, but is He really going there? He created this planet, we made a building...when creation meets we see in the other what is not in us.

I think it's too late, people have accepted God as a cultural item and whether and they associate this strongly with a 'building' or 'meeting place'. It's all kind of crazy in some ways when I think about God...but this is the system we have inherited; that has been on this earth from some 1700 years.

jollybeggar said...

"Sure there is an invitation to God to come there, but is He really going there? He created this planet, we made a building...when creation meets we see in the other what is not in us." (SVS)

is God really going there? what a great question.

i agree that having a building can often feel like an encumbrance. i mean, a fairly significant portion of the money given within the church i lead goes to paying the bills for the building. i hate that. i hate it so much that i am faced with at least two options that MUST be considered (because if one's not willing to consider options then one should probably not be willing to bellyache about the state of things.)...

1) sell the building and give the money away

2) keep the building, but give it away for free as often as possible, providing shelter to those who are in need of it for gatherings of their own.

it's not a perfect plan, but at least it ensures that people's 'offerings' don't go to keeping a fairly big and empty office space from which the pastors respond to emails. they are paying for a space to gather so that others who do not have such a space and/or cannot afford to secure one need not fail to gather.

since embracing the value to others of giving away our gathering space, i am not as bummed about having a church building that still costs us money. it is a resource that we can share.